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did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been prepared for those kinds of attacks. he should not have looked surprised and he should have been much more deft at not just defending his own record and talking about where we have been and what he has done to shore up the middle class and what he will continue to do, but he should have absolutely brought up the 47%, his offshoring, the fact that mitt romney does not want to come clean on his income taxes and i think that would have been a much different debate. >> i can see that crystal is jumping in there. unfortunately, you can't do it just yet. we have to have a commer
did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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supporters on both sides agree romney crushed in the debate but will it add up to votes? karl rove here to break it down. >>> money tonight, gas shortage in california. prices skyrocket. stations close. will it spread across the country? we have details. >>> i'm getting serious about the saving the post office. i'm the turnaround specialist who can avoid a $11 billion default. i'm offering my services to the postmaster general. he is here in a fox business exclusive. even when they say it's not you know it is always about money. melissa: first let's take a look at the market headlines. all three major indices close in the green. all 10 sectors in the s&p finished on the plus side for a fourth straight day of gains. cisco names new number two. gary moore named president and chief operating officer. ceo john chambers says he will stay in his position between two and four more years. jobless claims rose slightly this week, climbing by 4,000 to 367,000. we're all going to be watching tomorrow morning when the government releases its monthly unemployment numbers for september.
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time romney and obama ever actually debated each other in fact i think it's one of the few times that both men of even appear on stage together but i just knew that i'd seen this debate before. and then you know being an old geezer it struck me last night's debate was one nine hundred eighty all over again i remember that it was reagan versus carter i've said many times that the only way that mitt romney can win the election is to lie well the same was true of ronald reagan as a center for american progress pointed out this morning mitt romney told twenty seven lies and half truths in the course of just the thirty eight minutes that he spoke during the debate last night this is really a staggering feat if you think about it but one that was easily pulled off because the moderator wasn't calling out any of the lies and frankly and tragically neither was president obama or romney also pulled it off by using the ronald reagan strategy of saying what ever it takes to win just so long as you say it since the early and with the smile take a look at how ronald reagan wide his way through the
time romney and obama ever actually debated each other in fact i think it's one of the few times that both men of even appear on stage together but i just knew that i'd seen this debate before. and then you know being an old geezer it struck me last night's debate was one nine hundred eighty all over again i remember that it was reagan versus carter i've said many times that the only way that mitt romney can win the election is to lie well the same was true of ronald reagan as a center for...
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romney's challenge now is to prove that was the real mitt romney we saw at the debates. the confident asserttive romney we saw during the debate is not the romney we have grown used to over the last couple of months. romney has since stood by his 47% statement but now he is rolling it back. here is what he said yesterday. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown they care about 100%. >> you might think that this new romney is nothing but an act. if you do, you are not alone. here is what the president had to say to a crowd of 30,000 people yesterday in madison, wisconsin. >> i met this very spirited fellow who claims to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country this past year promising $5 trillion tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> romney is rolling out new campaign ads as well as new talking points over the next few days and weeks. his goal is to convince the american public that he is ready to be president. more coming up live after the
romney's challenge now is to prove that was the real mitt romney we saw at the debates. the confident asserttive romney we saw during the debate is not the romney we have grown used to over the last couple of months. romney has since stood by his 47% statement but now he is rolling it back. here is what he said yesterday. >> it's completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown they care about 100%. >> you might think that this new romney is nothing but an...
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have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that that performance, as widely watched as it was, is going to move numbers. we have yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some. and i think that on the other hand, did governor romney win the d
have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay....
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i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was amazed the 47% didn't come up. i think what we saw more than anything the rust from the president not having been in a debate, quite frankly, for four years. and i thought that mitt romney, the challenger always, with the president, gets an advantage, just by being there on the same stage and beeb at least equal. i thought that romney did quite well in making his case. he seemed comfortable. he seemed confident. he didn't seem mean spirited. i was amazed the president didn't rebut the the $716 billion charge. it's a phony charge. it's been-- i mean, it's
i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was...
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the debate, mitt's campaign said, romney will come across as empathetic. but here's what mitt's been promising for the last two years. tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. how do you make that seem warm and fuzzy? you just need to shake it up as hard as mitt did last night. so let's give it a shot. okay. [ cheers and applause ] now let's see what mitt's tax plan looks like now. here you go. presto chango. now you see romney's policies, now you don't. >> how does he do it? >>> still ahead on "way too early," why are you awake? your magical tweets, texts, and e-mails. "morning joe" moments away. up. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. >>> we asked you at the top of the show what you're doing this hour. john tower, what are you doing? >> i
the debate, mitt's campaign said, romney will come across as empathetic. but here's what mitt's been promising for the last two years. tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. how do you make that seem warm and fuzzy? you just need to shake it up as hard as mitt did last night. so let's give it a shot. okay. [ cheers and applause ] now let's see what mitt's tax plan looks like now. here you go. presto chango. now you see romney's policies, now you don't. >> how does he do it? >>>...
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romney's. a debate is debate. if obama had done much better than romney, ron and i would be arguing something very difficult than what we're arguing today. we have a month left. early voting in places like iowa started last week well before this debate. obama, i fully suspect will not allow himself to be had the way he was had at last debate going forward. jon: i wonder how many foals would like the mail-in ballots back. >> i don't know about that. we'll see. jon: already a fait accompli. is it going to depend on these last two debates? romney has momentum but it could all fall flat if things turnaround in the debates next time? >> romney has to keep the trajectory going by doing very well in the debates. clearly he is prepared. he is continuing to, work on these things and he is going to, i think he is going to do very well against obama in these debates. he has a big foreign policy speech coming up this monday. the next debate will be foreign policy which obama is very weak on especially with, the crisis in the
romney's. a debate is debate. if obama had done much better than romney, ron and i would be arguing something very difficult than what we're arguing today. we have a month left. early voting in places like iowa started last week well before this debate. obama, i fully suspect will not allow himself to be had the way he was had at last debate going forward. jon: i wonder how many foals would like the mail-in ballots back. >> i don't know about that. we'll see. jon: already a fait accompli....
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will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now
will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this...
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i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind. [laughter] when you look at undecided voters, they generally tend to be younger women than anything else. in this case, i am seeing an even division between men and women. they tend to be more independent. they are either somewhat conservative to moderate. only 18% of the undecided voters in the swing states say the country is going in the right direction. 70% say it is on the wrong track. that is much more negative than the country as a whole. that is why i believe romney is poised to pick up some of them. >> anybody who thinks the next debate will be the same as this one, i think they are making a mistake.
i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind....
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romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that chang when he returned to the campaign trail. >> i almost got to watch out. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what mitt romney has been saying in the last year. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. yes we do. >> reporter: biden said the super wealthy needs to pay more. romney says that will kill jobs. another wild card in this race comes later this morning. the governme
romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that chang when he returned to...
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the debate was important for the romney campaign. we have had bad job numbers now for months upon months leading up to this and they never affect the members. you can make the argument that despite the fact that rebound got a good jobs number, a good unemployment rate ticked down in the unemployment rate that may or may not impact the numbers. >> post debate there is indication, we have scott rasmussen coming up later talking about the polls, post debate happens now, it will show up in the numbers between now and the next couple of days. when did the post jobless numbers start to be polled and show up in the numbers? >>guest: well, we will have some people go in the field here in the next few days and have some debt on that next week. we will have the tracking polls, now, adding respondents as of tomorrow that will include today, people from today, who are taking note of the jobs numbers. it will get rolled into the data quickly. that will be all wrap up in the general horse race number. it will be another five or six or seven days b
the debate was important for the romney campaign. we have had bad job numbers now for months upon months leading up to this and they never affect the members. you can make the argument that despite the fact that rebound got a good jobs number, a good unemployment rate ticked down in the unemployment rate that may or may not impact the numbers. >> post debate there is indication, we have scott rasmussen coming up later talking about the polls, post debate happens now, it will show up in...
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today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know maybe. >> mitt romney also talking about that comment this morning giving sean hannity his take on the former vice president's debate announcement. >>> would you agree maybe the altitude had an impact on the president last night. that was al gore's theory. >> look, it was a chance for each of us to describe our vision for the country. the president talked about his vision which was a continuation of the policies of the last four years. he wants to have a stimulus and investing for us. he wants to raise taxes as vice president biden blurted out they want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars more like 2 trillion by our calculations. he is laying out the same policies he has been talking about for the last four years. >>> scary story. an outbreak of a rare and deadly form of me think gmeningitis. >> it is scary. the death tole reaching 35. the cdc.gov says that number could go even higher. cases of fungal men
today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know maybe. >> mitt romney also talking about that comment this morning giving sean hannity his take on the former vice president's debate announcement. >>> would you agree maybe the altitude had an impact on the president last night. that was al gore's theory. >> look, it was a chance for each of us to describe...
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lou: mitt romney's debate performance may have helped them to gain some. president obama -- the question is why. joe, why is this? you have date key battleground states with this hugely successful republican governor. the state remains blue when it comes to the election. >> we do not know that yet. [ talking over each other ] recently, that is true. before that, just to remind viewers out there, new jersey was based date that richard nixon won twice, gerald ford, george bush sr. the first time. charles: what happened when i think a lot of it depends on the nominee. i am running for the u.s. senate this year. i think i have a good chance to win. we need mitt romney to keep things tight. i think he has reshuffled things around the country. i think in the upcoming days, next week, we will see the evidence of that in the polling. charles: what is the difference between you and the last republican that ran? >> i was like 12 the last time we had a republican win for that united states senate. it was a very tough race. [ talking over each other ] the difference t
lou: mitt romney's debate performance may have helped them to gain some. president obama -- the question is why. joe, why is this? you have date key battleground states with this hugely successful republican governor. the state remains blue when it comes to the election. >> we do not know that yet. [ talking over each other ] recently, that is true. before that, just to remind viewers out there, new jersey was based date that richard nixon won twice, gerald ford, george bush sr. the first...
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. >> governor romney won the debate, moving up in the polls. president obama gets in unemployment blues. the a-team is here to talk politics and life in america want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, sharing what you know. let's do it grandpa. that's why humana agents will sit down with you, to listen and understand what's important to you. it's how we help you choose the right humana medicare plan for you. because when your medicare is taken care of, you can spend more time sharing your passions. wow. [ giggle
. >> governor romney won the debate, moving up in the polls. president obama gets in unemployment blues. the a-team is here to talk politics and life in america want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer...
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governor romney boasted about his debate performance and told supporters he will take back the white house, but for the first time romney backed away from his controversial remarks about the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. he was asked what he would have said if that came up in the debate. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama campaigned in wisconsin and sharply criticized romney's statements during the debate on tax cuts, education and outsourcing as misleading to the middle class and the president had this to say about his opponent's plan for reducing the deficit. >> i just want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street but he's going to crack down on sesame street. thank goodness somebody's finally cracking down on big bird. who knew tha
governor romney boasted about his debate performance and told supporters he will take back the white house, but for the first time romney backed away from his controversial remarks about the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. he was asked what he would have said if that came up in the debate. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this...
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today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know, maybe --. bill: did you hear that voice in the background, that's interesting? now, it is true, and it is factual he left vegas around 2:00 in the afternoon. but just on the face, what do you think of that? >> well that may be its effect on vice president gore. i think the president is in peek physical condition. i think he could probably handle 5,000 feet. this is why the president had a problem in the macro explanation, is, people like al gore, suck up to the president. every president lives in a world without pierce, is trapped in this world where nobody can tell him the truth because he is the only president. but i think president more than any other i have seen is surrounded by suck ups, people who reinforce his sense he is above all of this. i think valerie jarrett sat next to mrs. obama during the debate tells the president every day, you're the greatest
today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know, maybe --. bill: did you hear that voice in the background, that's interesting? now, it is true, and it is factual he left vegas around 2:00 in the afternoon. but just on the face, what do you think of that? >> well that may be its effect on vice...
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governor romney boasted about his debate performance and told supporters he will take back the white house. but for the first time, romney backed away from his controversial remarks about the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. he was asked what he would have said if that came up in the debate. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, i said something that's completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama campaigned in wisconsin, sharply criticizing romney's statements during the debate on tax cuts, education, and outsourcing as misleading to the middle class. the president had this to say about his opponent's plan for reducing the deficit. >> but i just want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street, but he's going to crack down on "sesame street." [ applause ] thank goodness somebody's finally cracking down on big bird. w
governor romney boasted about his debate performance and told supporters he will take back the white house. but for the first time, romney backed away from his controversial remarks about the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. he was asked what he would have said if that came up in the debate. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going say something that doesn't come out right. in this...
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between today's positive jobs report and romney's ace debate, the dow added 173 points to the plus side for the week. so let's talk. fellas, i want to get to the second story, too, but give me some lightning round stuff. jim you' jim, was there a mitt romney lightning round? >> i think there was a bit of a rally. but that failed from the old bernanke high as couple weeks ago but it lost some steam. >> jim, is will a fed qe3 rally going on. i know we like to talk politics, politics can affect stocks. is the fed pump priming still putting wind behind the stock market? >> absolutely. look, the biggest correlation we can find with the market in anything over the last four years is quantitative easing. now there's a lot of rumors out that qe4 is coming because the fed is worried about the fiscal cliff. so, yes, it's a manipulated market and this is why the market has rallied more than anything else. >> you can't have qe4 because qe3 is in perpetuity. they would just pump more. jim iurio, was there a jobs controversy today with the 7.8 unemployment rate? is it possible some investors think th
between today's positive jobs report and romney's ace debate, the dow added 173 points to the plus side for the week. so let's talk. fellas, i want to get to the second story, too, but give me some lightning round stuff. jim you' jim, was there a mitt romney lightning round? >> i think there was a bit of a rally. but that failed from the old bernanke high as couple weeks ago but it lost some steam. >> jim, is will a fed qe3 rally going on. i know we like to talk politics, politics...
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romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the president and the president's plans and an attack on governor romney. and at that time in 2008. i noticed that palin focused on her record and her family. it was me centered and i can see paul ryan walking down that same path and the work that he has done in congress rather than making it about governor romney and president obama. >> do you think the age difference will be a factor? >> yeah. almost exexactly the same age different from 1988. that was a situation where quail looked like the young day. and it was like an old testam
romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the...
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opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd carries you on its shoulders, almost what you say doesn't matter long as long as you don't screw up, on a debate, there is a stark contrast because there is a very bare stage, if you look at there is nobody in front of you booing or cheering and you have a moderator and two people and almost like a gladiator and when you hav
opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate...